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If its just a paycheck.Id be looking elsewhere or to move. Also, are you able to use surface streets rather than freeways for your commute? America greatly needs better public transportation. Some folks could handle this and would be fine, and others are not okay with this sort of commute. My husband works in construction so he has to go wherever the job site is, that varies from 10 minutes to 90 minutes, sometimes via the freeway and sometimes not. I work in NYC and live in a suburb about 35 miles away. Most of my coworkers that live on the North/South Shore of Boston commute around that far. These factors are 100% personal preference and might seem nuts to someone else, but its something Ill have to do almost everyday so I might as well not hate it. ), and the JOB was miserable. Used to be hell (25 km in 1.5h, yay for bridges and never ending roadwork, sometimes 2h-2h30 for the 1st snow, or 1st snow after a 2 week spring people tend to forget how to drive in winter conditions in the spring, crazyness) but I changed jobs 5 years ago for one 5 km away. I worked swing shift, which helped, but I also had a sports car, which I *loved* to drive! I have lots of friends who dont mind traffic and are willing to siting in it for 1-2 hours each way a day to work at jobs they love. I hope that youre able to find another job with a more manageable commute! I couldnt do it. Traffic has been getting worse over the last few years, and I tell myself if the drive ever hit 1.5 hours, Id start looking for another job somewhere closer, but the truth is I probably wouldnt. That aside though, if both you and the guy work in LA, why not just move there? Even if it was normal for the area, that means the area is terrible and I wouldnt want to live or work there. More often than not I'd be home in 25 minutes and most days I spent less than an hour in the car. Try it a few times (in summer, when the days are marginally longer, and you have more daylight). I grew up in NM and live in NY now. Aside from gas and wear/tear its almost stressfree. Get up at 5AM and do it all again. Hes not off base saying its normal because it is definitely not unheard of in Southern California. The U.S. is different than some countries in that many big cities dont have great public transportation. Its not so much the miles as the stop and go (or slow and go) traffic. And then there is the increased wear and tear on your car and the associated costs. Most of my colleagues travel at least an hour to an hour and a half, and mostly by mass transit. Commute time depends largely on when I leave: if I leave home at 6:30 am, it takes 30 minutes; if I leave at 7:30 am, it takes 45 minutes, and if I leave at 8:30, it takes an hour or more. Good luck! I found anything over 30 minutes was just unmanageable for me. I know lots of people who work in NYC and have 1.5 to 2 hour commutes from Suffolk and even Pennsylvania because housing is way less expensive in those places. AND, it didnt matter what mode of transportation I took; train to Union Station to Metro with a 1/2 mile walk to the office took the same 2 hours as driving and parking a few blocks away (because it was about $40 in my building). A word of warning about looking for jobs within 10 miles of Long Beach. I hated the long drives, but when you have 3 million people going to the same place at the same time, what else can you do ? But since its against traffic, its 25-30 minutes of highway driving. My folks, who now live in backwoods Michigan, laugh at me for complaining when it takes me (in the greater metro radius of a major city) half an hour to get somewhere, since thats pretty much their minimum drive to get to civilization but theyre thinking of 30 minutes on the M22 with nothing much going on, whereas Im thinking of battling Baltimoron traffic for 30 minutes! This makes me so sad. I would have left a merely very good job a couple of years ago. Not that anyone cares but Im in staff housing again and my current commute is about four minutes walk. Im one of those people. Do yourself a favor. *shudder*, Working remote is much better! If it looked awful to go home, I just wouldnt. There are a lot of people selling stuff, panhandling, or just riding the trains to get off the streets. So cal born and raised here! My current drive isnt bad at all, but it is certainly not as pleasant as riding the bus. For reference that will easily take you from Tucson to Phoenix. I use The Woodlands Express and i always get home in an hour or less! Leaving in May and returning in September missed the worst of the hot season, but even so, the first few weeks of fall semester were regularly over 100 on a daily basis (frequently over 110). Thats twelve hours a day of work plus commute. ! turns out, its even worse than people said. But Im not one to just complain so Im actively looking for a new opportunity to better suit what I want. No regrets. I took the position with the long commute thinking that my stint there would advance my career. I live in North Hollywood and I have had jobs in both Brentwood and Venice, which was a 2 hour commute each way, and decided oh, NOT WORTH IT! Though sometimes Ill just pick classics to feel well-read (even if Im pretty sure Im going to hate them) or popular books so that I can be a little more up on cultural references. Right now Im willing to make less money to work at a job with flexible hours (I work 7am-3/4pm) so I can avoid traffic. I think the longest commute anyone I know has had was my cousins husband who used to travel ~60 miles to and from work every day and spend over 3 hours each way. In the US it'd probably be considered living close to work! There are ever-growing RV encampments all over with people just trying to make ends meet. Total nightmare, but they had to do it (for years) because they had a good job in an industry that would not have had something comparable with a really good commute. Its 8 miles away against the flow of traffic. Personally I couldnt do it. Intellectually, I know that the whole homeownership is the American Dream and renting is just throwing money away thing is so much BS, but theres a part of me that cant quite shake the feeling that Im getting too old to be dealing with landlords and annoying downstairs neighbors. This includes driving to the park-n-ride, parking, walking to the bus, sometimes waiting for the bus, riding the bus, walking to my office. We ended up being held at gunpoint by gang members who thought it was funny to mess with the freaky looking punk rockers. I have so much more time and am generally happier. I would move closer to work but cant afford it. If no seat, I switch to the express train and get to work roughly on time. It is wonderful. Thats why the end of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Of course that means you have to pay Dublin rent prices. The San Francisco Bay area is similar, even with having many more public transport options. My 1.5-2 hour commute (each way) to drive a little over 10 miles was one of the reasons I had to leave that city. Public transit simply isnt accessible enough for most people and most jobs here (although its gotten easier, now that the Expo line is open and stretches to Santa Monica). Around Chicago, my commute is a 30-40 minute drive from suburb to suburb (Schaumburg/Elgin to Mt. It was a nightmare and I said I would NEVER do it again. ? Its pretty normal here. Nothing to suggest hes pressuring OP to keep the job or insisting that she just get over it. Silicon Valley, for example, has tons of jobs, but not enough housing, so people commute from all over, packing the roadways. I had to do a 50 mile 1 way commute during a couple of limited stints a little over a decade ago (both from my moms once was for a 6 month internship; the second time was for about 2 months when I was between housing in grad school), and those commutes ended up being 1-1.5 hours, depending on traffic. Mine used to be 15 minutes each way; now its more like 30 minutes each way, part of which is walking time because my assigned parking is nowhere near my office. Anything thats between OC and LA and also cheap is probably on one of the freeways that I would avoid like the plague during the day. There are jobs worth moving, even in the same town, for. why should employers care about my long commute? There is some swearing, if you worry about that thing. Brea, Yorba Linda and Anaheim Hills just have freeways. I did take the bus up and back once when my car was in the shop. stop and go. More than 25 minutes in the car each way would drive me mad before the first week was out. I have a 25 mile commute, which is actually a reverse commute, and it takes me about 40 minutes to 1:15 hours depending on traffic. Ive been to LA to visit family and really hated it. How can I make my drive to work more productive? My longest since then was 45 minutes driving across town even during rush hour. Mrs. Coach Taylor Wait, I live in Bernal Heights and work in San Mateo! I enjoy NPRs Wait Wait Dont Tell Me, which is a light-hearted way to catch up with current events. For a city, 30 miles seems like a lot! Invest in it! More than that would be un-doable for me. I currently live and work in LB and on a good day, its 7 minutes from door to door. However, on days with excessive traffic or if there was an accident (which happened often), my commute could be between 3 to 4 hours. on a good day 15 mins. But what counts as the Bay Area is also constantly expanding to include farther flung cities in the Central Valley, North Bay, and South Bay. A few of my senior bankers have 90-minute one-way commutes, and I just don't understand why people go through that. Lordy, I hope someone is watching. Theyre actually radio shows, but sold on audiobooks on Amazon, so Id recommend Cabin Pressure and John Finnemores Souvenir Programme. Is it right? Distant suburbs are lower income than most of the city. As others have said, doesnt matter whats normal. Is there still that delicious lebanese restaurant and french bakery on 2nd? Weve been to LA on vacation several times and the traffic was a nightmare even when it wasnt rush hour. General Workforce Inc. General Workforce Provides Highly Skilled Workers For Warehousing, Distribution Centers, Construction, Technical, Retail, Restaurants and More! Normal can die in a fire. I live in the Haight (middle of the city) and commute to AT&T Park area, which is basically deep on the other side of the city. But my boyfriend, who was born and raised in Orange County, keeps insisting a two-hour commute is normal. Were trying to move up our moving plans by several months because of this. I know other people whove done the same, and not all uber-rich techies or bankers, either. Maybe try to find something closer to home? THIS. I drove from southeast LA county to central OC for 7 years, about 35 miles each way. Good luck! (I get a seat about 50% of the time.) But man, 2 hours.. nope. For instance, I could find a tiny box apartment close to work if I really wanted to have a short commute, but when Im at home, I want to cook in a nice kitchen, relax in a living room with a big TV, have space for a home gym, etc. LA traffic is 100% the pit of hell. Somewhat related: I just did my taxes this week and I never noticed before that theres a relocation benefit if youve moved for work. HOUSTON (AP) A former suburban Houston police officer was set to be executed Tuesday for hiring two people to kill his estranged wife nearly 30 years ago. Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, Merced, Sacramento, Vallejo. My commute now is 35 minutes walking, 12 minutes by bike or bus. I used to drive from OC to Pasadena once a month to sell at the Rose Bowl flea market, but since that was at the literal crack of ass on a Sunday, there was NEVER any traffic! But youll figure it out. Which probably means a higher rent. I wont say thats just how things are in LA. When I first started applying to jobs in LA from NYC, I applied to a job in Orange County even though my intention was to live with my best friend in Koreatown. MUNI takes forever! I could make it shorter if I got the tube (metro) rather than the bus for part of it, but I prefer that as I normally get a seat on the bus and I can read rather than being wedged into someones armpit. I grew up in CoCoCounty (fam is still there), and so much of the County was working class that I never really thought of it as unaffordable until the last 10-15 years or so. Not quite three years and I missed warm sunny days more than I ever thought would be possible. I told myself my commute was just 3.5 hr of reading time that I normally wouldnt allow myself, so really, I was the lucky one (positivity and denial were really helpful too!) I listen to audio books that are young adult novels so its harder in my case to lose track. How long is too long to commute? In LA its particularly important to live in a neighborhood thats not awful for getting to your job and other things you do on a regular basis. Distance in miles is not how the commute is measured in LA/OC, and a 2-hour commute could be entirely normal based on where you live. That's train, tube, walk and drive to the station. If I change jobs again, I probably wont accept anything less. I have friends who live in Orange County and have two hour commutes each way. But some mornings I even freak out and ask my boyfriend to escort me to my car in the morning (445-5 am) if I had to park further away since we live near a dark park. Is moving an option? Probably even some of the more steamy paranormal romances too I wouldnt want to listen to Im very conscious of the audibility of what Im listening to outside my vehicle, because I regularly overhear peoples in car telephone conversations!). My commute in Philly was like that. We live in a not-overly-big Midwestern city, but unfortunately the placement of the home we own and his workplace means he has a fairly miserable drive. Or how a crowd moves at the end of a sporting event when every person is trying to get out of the stadium at the same time theres just nowhere to go. I usually commute by bike, which is about seven miles because of the path, and takes 45 minutes or so. Im glad youre making a change! I used to commute for 2 hours each way each day, 5 days a week. I definitely think the key is less what does everyone in this area think is normal and more what am I willing to accept as part of my daily life. When my lease ended, I moved to Cathedral Heights, and Ive really loved the neighborhoodI have 25-minute walking commute, and its lovely. The worst days weve encountered in 8 months were 2 separate days where it took me two hours- and that was literally when a water main break (and a gas pipe leak) caused multiple freeway shut downs that made everyone get stuck. If Id done that commute via freeways, it would have taken at least an hour each way. Last year, I took a position where I had to commute from my parents house in Westchester to eastern LI (driving 63 miles each way). My job is 6.2 miles away from home exactly a 10K. My current commute is about an hour but most of it is by train. Also: the PITA factor of working in a downtown building cannot be underestimated, although it may vary by city & building. Oh, and Seattle native here, and I have to tell all you Seattle kids, the traffic in Seattle and surrounding communities is ALREADY as bad or worse than LA. That said, in OC and some parts of LA county, it is entirely possible to work minutes away from your residence, or find alternate routes, or work non-peak traffic hours. Its a problem of too many people, too many cars. So theres even MORE traffic trying to get there at 8 AM from all the far flung sprawling areas. Huh. Leaving work it is a bit longer because my shuttle only runs every 30 minutes, so I usually have to wait a bit. I only lasted about 9 months in that job and left to avoid a complete mental breakdown. Topping the list of metro areas with high rates of mega commuting are San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA (2.06%), New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA (1.90%), Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV (1.89%), Trenton-Ewing NJ Metropolitan Statistical Area (1.40%), and Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA (1.25%). Reading to North Oxford! Id rather do cool stuff in my time off and take a pay cut. For me, my 52 minute commute was extended to 1 hour 15 minutes anytime school was in session. It gave up just about all of that when it converted to the freeway religion. Its just a matter of life in a major metro area. But 2 hours isnt completely unheard of. Ive done a 2 hour each way commute, but I hated it. Its baffling to me, even coming from Boston where 93 is notoriously slow. 2 to 2.5 hour commutes are long even by our standards, but not unheard of. Im in Chicago. As Allison said, its not unheard of. Yeah easily if only once a week. Im pretty sure there are days when it would be faster to *walk* to downtown from my neighborhood than to drive (Google says ~2 hours, and Google thinks people walk slowly, so I could probably do it in 1.5ish). I think that explain it all. Excellent point. What works for one person doesnt always work for another, so its important to figure out what works best for your sanity! I dont know how people drive standards here ;). Yeah, my husband currently commutes from Arlington to the Laurel/College Park-ish area. Ive ridden the train about a dozen times from LB up to downtown around 5ish (to go to Staples center) and its always been fine. Not only are you losing time by commuting, but you may also be affecting your overall work performance. 2 hour ride, changing, full 8 hour day, and repeat for the return. Housing is actually cheaper than it was even in Solano County (for what we have/where we are). He missed the birth of our baby. There was even a Steve Martin movie that involved traffic signs. So has anyone had the experience of such a long commute? Many people commute 2hrs+ every day. I was used to doing drop off and pick up from day care and I couldnt do that anymore. Commutes in more congested cities are like that, unfortunately. And now that I have a 20-25 minute commute 3 days a week (telework two days a week), I dont think I could go back. Im in Atlanta, which is notoriously bad for commutes. My commute was anywhere from 45 minutes to 1 hr 30 mins. Hi OP! Best of luck finding something new. My sister was in the backseat also GPSing the route on her phone, also trying to get around traffic. My first job after grad school was about 90 minutes on public transit, which was definitely very long and not ideal, but having done the same commute while interning there during school, I knew I could deal with it. Many others need to hop on a subway once they get into the city. I drive 30 minutes one-way and that is about my limit. My commute from my outer borough is roughly 70-90 minutes one way. Eventually, I found a gym near work, and would go there and get my workout in and wait for traffic to die down. I live and work in different parts of LA than you do, but I and my husband have both had some really awful commutes since weve moved out here. What gets me about your situation is that your commute is all driving if you were on a train or a subway you could at least multi-task with other activities. I worked all week and basically slept all weekend because I was so exhausted. It really is. I live in West LA about 5 minutes (on a good day) from my office (but I take the bus so its a little bit longer). 30 miles is very far for LA commuters. I tell people the car I drive is not nearly nice enough to want to spend a significant portion of my life in it! It was ridiculous; I stuck it out until I was able to transfer closer a couple years ago. Sometimes it was under two hours, and sometimes slightly over. They also refuse to go to restaurants on like, Saturday nights, because they expect to wait hours for a table. It often takes him two hours due to the traffic. It is making me miserable, therefore I am going to (look for another job closer to home, look for a place closer to work, move back to New York, something else that addresses the problem)., (Also your boyfriend constantly insisting that something you hate is normal is a preeeetty big red flag to me. I am in Orange County and it takes me anywhere from 35 minutes to over an hour to drive 14 miles. I would have guessed a bit higher. I meant to say cycling is more* tolerable than driving. And its been getting progressively worse. Id still bring it up to your boss if thats not tenable for you personally there may be another work around, like you leave at 3pm but have a wireless headset in the car to direct calls, and you arrive before him every morning to finish the tasks left for you the previous evening. Typical and normal are two different things. You would think they would make a more robust commuter system there, but then again, I am not totally sold on how well we can manage train systems in this country either . I did once have a coworker who used to commute from the Cape to Boston and that was 2 to 2.5 hours one way depending on the weather, but that was an unusual case. was I wrong to be put off by interviewing on Bring Your Kids to Work Day? Yes! When I accepted that job I was told I might be able to telecommute one or two days a week but the culture there really didnt seem open to my doing so. I do 1:15 to 1:30 one way three times a week, and most people I know think thats pretty horrible. A commute of 40-45 minutes per day is good for this area. (Okay, its usually 5-10 minutes to walk to the train/grab coffee, 30-45 minutes on the train to Hoboken, then either PATH to my office (~10-20 minutes, then walking 10 minutes) or Citibike (~5 minutes on light rail, ~15 minutes biking, 5 minutes walking). My commute would have been about 50 minutes, with the opportunity of a park-and-ride situation where half of that would have been on a train. I had learned to drive in Phx, had gone to Cali plenty of times, but I could not handle an LA freeway. I got an apartment with a roommate 3 miles away from my office after that. yep, same with here in the Bay area. My husband and I both have different Costcos we prefer, which both take about the same amount of travel time. And on the way back, oh boy, it was at least an hour and 15 mins. *Except for the time I was without a vehicle for awhile and that 20 minute commute turned into an hour and a half bus ride. I live in Sacramento and commutes are better here than in L.A. or the Bay Area, but it is getting worse. I am in the NYC area and currently have a 2:05 commute each way daily. But the salient point here is that the OP is asking if she has to just suck it up because *shrug*, thats LA, and so many of us are saying that while LA traffic is indeed ridiculous, there are better and worse commutes, and we are reassuring OP that people in LA do indeed make choices that allow them to have more manageable commutes within the terrible, horrible, no-good traffic. Or if you rely solely on bus and are coming from an outer city in the direction of traffic. Hosted by people who live in SoCal. By . Also consider LA County healthcare jobs closer to where you live Russian is considered a threshold language in the county, so there is a requirement to make written materials and services accessible to Russian-primary or Russian-only residents. I wish you luck adjusting your circumstances to something that works for you! Unsustainable is a great word, Countess. heres some free help preparing for job interviews. If you are only going to have to do the journey twice a week, it's a no brainier if it means you can live in your preferred area. Hoping you get another job soon and closer to home! I couldnt handle mentally OR physically. I commuted from Huntington Beach to Burbank one timeit wasnt fun, but it was normal to me. It's dark and cold. There are people commuting from Sacramento to San Franciscono kidding! More than 4 hours commute time! And it is just going to continue getting worse. Seriously. Commuting sucks and I hope you can find something closer to you! I live in the SF Bay Area, and my commute is ~25 minutes with cruise control set for the speed limit (in the slow lane) on the freeway. It sucks and its not great, but it sounds like the boyfriend is saying this is pretty much a problem no matter what job she has. Swore would never do commute into London again! A lot of my coworkers did the same. 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